What To Do About Reformulations

Your favorite fragrances are being reformulated. What do you do? Panic. Dial 911. Throw all your expendables out the fire escape and take only cash, canned food, and pictures of your loved ones. Get down on your knees and pray.

Kidding, kidding. Nah, don't do any of those things.

Occasionally I get concerned comments about reformulations, which fragrance to trust, which variation in packaging to look out for, etc. A few months ago, I wrote a post about reformulations, specifically two of my favorite fragrances: Grey Flannel, and Kouros. I lamented that these masterpieces had been messed with, although despite my certainty that something had changed, I was hard-pressed to identify what, exactly, it was. With Grey Flannel, it seemed like there was less oakmoss, less violet, more anise. With Kouros, there seemed to be a thinner citrus and civet intro, followed by a slightly muted drydown of clove and incense, sans honey and wildflowers. I wasn't a happy customer.

Then I did side-by-side sniff comparisons of my older bottles against the new. In the case of Grey Flannel, it was apparent to me that there was only a very, very subtle difference. The violet leaf had been toned up, and the actual violet ionone toned down. This resulted in a more peppery, anise-like top for the new version, which contrasted just a little with the smoother, mossier top of old.

In the case of Kouros, lengthy wearings helped me discern what happened. Recently I wore my older formula for a full day, in relatively high heat. Its bright citrus/musk top notes carried predictably into the heart, where a nice melange of honeyed wildflowers (and lots of lavender) opened up, creating a beautiful sweetness. The incense base was solid, upholding the perfume for an appreciable time. The new version of Kouros, however, is toned back on all fronts, and in fact the concentration has been altered slightly - it is now two steps closer to being an eau de cologne, instead of a standard EDT. There is more water, as noted in the ingredients list, instead of perfumer's alcohol.

Still, the new Kouros performs the same. There's a lighter citrus/musk opening, a lighter wildflower accord, a lighter incense in the base. The same beautiful sweetness chimes in every now and then to remind me that I'm wearing a masterpiece.

We all know that reformulations happen, and that sometimes this changes the quality of a fragrance for the worse. On basenotes, and on Fragrantica, we read all the time that it's not worth wearing Paco Rabanne Pour Homme unless you can find a bottle from the late '80s or early '90s, before the latest round of cost-cuts trimmed the life out of it. Quorum gets accused of being a pale sliver of its former self, due to reckless changes in how oakmoss gets dosed. I've even read that 4711, which is a fairly simple EdC consisting primarily of citrus aromachemicals, was gutted some time back, and now masquerades as itself. If true, it's all a damn shame.

Let's get something straight here. Sometimes fragrances do get ruined. I haven't said anything about it, because I didn't want to shit on the venerable house of Azzaro, which I like and admire greatly. But their most recent reformulation of Azzaro Pour Homme - which follows my review of it - is a shambles. They have taken the idea of "modernization" too far, and made what was once a terrific French fougère into a ghastly watery thing that smells like someone dropped an Azzaro Pour Homme tablet in an eight-gallon jug of New England tap. This is an example of a reformulation failure, and if you really must know, I can't recommend buying the recent crop of ApH until they change it back. They had already turned it into a sports fragrance, which I didn't mind and actually liked, but then they took it a step too far, and now you'd be better off wearing Stetson by Coty. And no one is better off wearing Stetson by Coty. No one.

But in the interest of "Getting Things Straight," let me add that Azzaro Pour Homme is a rare case. Grey Flannel was reformulated. Several times. It still smells like Grey Flannel. Nothing has changed to the extent that it smells like some shadow of itself. Kouros has been under the knife a few times also, and it still smells like Kouros. Quorum - which I have had batch variation issues with in the past - still smells like Quorum, and although I'd appreciate it if they improved its grapefruit note, I'm totally comfortable saying that nothing has changed. These fragrances have stood their ground, and are worth re-purchasing. And so have other fragrances, and they're worth re-purchasing, too.

My friend Shamu1, whose excellent blog I have been reading for a while now, recently made an excellent point about reformulations. It's something that shouldn't be overlooked, because it is very true: when fragrances age in the bottle, various solvent ingredients evaporate through whatever tiny cracks and fissures exist in their bottles. Stuff like alcohol and water. It happens very slowly, very gradually, and sometimes almost imperceptibly. The result is that the perfume oils, the raw materials that make the fragrance tick, become a little more concentrated, and seem to intensify. That 10 year-old bottle of Paco Rabanne Pour Homme probably smells a little better than the one you bought a month ago. That's because your older Paco is holding a bit less water, and a bit of a congealed formula. Its essence is more concentrated by a mere fraction, enough for your nose to detect. It smells better, because there's less "filler" between your nose and the stuff that makes Paco the amazing masculine perfume that it is. Meanwhile, your new bottle has all that filler still in it, still buffering the air, holding the perfume at bay. It's present, but it's polite. Maybe even a little hollow, compared to the old stuff. That's normal. That's nothing to get crazy over.

I know that my new bottle of Kouros has been reformulated because I see that they've re-allocated the position of water in the ingredients list. But almost every other ingredient is the same. And the only difference is that there's a little more alcohol in my older bottle. My older bottle may be about 8 or 9 years old. Could be a little older. It smells a little stronger, denser. There's not as much buffer between the fragrance and my nose, so I'm getting the full brunt of synthetic civet and bergamot when I first spray it on. Which is nice.

Should I be peeved that they put more water in the new version? Yes and no. It makes it a little harder to smell Kouros right now. But water evaporates. Ten years from now, I may have my old Kouros back. So what's the point of getting all upset over it? There is none.

Basenotes and Fragrantica are full to the brim with threads regarding reformulation. Packaging changes. Batch numbers. You name it, it's there. It's a fool's game. Don't listen to the guy who tries to send you on a mission to find a bottle of Kouros from 1983. When you place the winning bid on Ebay, you're going to receive a perfume that smells old. The citrus notes will have soured, and the civet - some of which may have been real back then - will be off-balance. The floral notes will have peeled and become powdery before their time. The incense base, which is supposed to smell raw, will instead seem burnt. And what can you tell people on the internet then? That you shouldn't have paid $100 for an old bottle of Kouros, because the original formula hasn't survived the decades? That it would have been easier and cheaper to just go to the mall and grab a bottle of the new stuff? That despite all your attempts to pass the skunked juice off as "beautiful," and "one-of-a-kind," none of your friends are buying it?

Or will you go back on basenotes, or Fragrantica, and tell the new kids on the block that it's not worth buying Kouros unless they find its original formula? That won't make you feel better about all the original formulas you bought, wore, and regretted.

Life is full of change. Acceptance of change is part of life. Don't get hung up on the past. Move forward always.


  1. Now you're getting me nervous about Azzaro. Has this been reformulated recently? I have two bottles with the clear embossed emblem and Azzaro Pour Homme on the bottle. I think they're about 5 years old, I'm not sure. I thought this was the last formula change, and I like it.

    What does the new stuff's bottle look like? I don't get worked up over reformulations, but I don't like what I'm hearing. Azzaro is one of my favorites.

    1. It's troubling because it looks identical to the clear embossed formula, and there's no way to tell it apart. But to my nose, it's become unbearably weak. They've notched it down yet again. I purchased my bottle a few months ago, and it's abysmal. When it comes to APH, my only suggestion would be to try before you buy. If you like what you smell for the first ten minutes on skin, you've got a bottle worth buying. If it goes from nice to crumby in under ten, you've got the new stuff.

  2. I am pretty jaded about reformulation talk too. I think people are so afraid of feeling snookered that they don't want to be in a position where someone else noticed a big change and they didn't, so they have to make a huge deal out of it. What is annoying is that all reformulations seem to be lamented equally so it is hard to know which are the real failures. There are some reformulations of perfumes that I am intimately familiar with, so I can compare my reactions to the lamentations online. I almost always find it overblown.

    It's part of a natural human tendency to always look at the past with rose colored glasses, and want to broadcast how discerning you are. But sometimes reading perfume boards you would think there is no more good perfume to buy anywhere, if you weren't into it before X date, you might as well not bother.

    I really got fed up on Makeupalley where I was posting about how much I fell in love with No. 19 and the first comment is "is it reformulated?" For Christ's sake, can't I have one moment of enjoyment before someone comes along to crap on it? I had to take a mini-break.

    1. Out of every fifty reformulations, my guess is five are total failures, the rest are simply changes, minor adjustments, re-arrangements, etc. None of which is worth getting huffy over, as you said.

      What's amusing is reading people's comments on certain classics that have been reformulated - and weren't that good to begin with! One of my least favorite fragrances is Halston's Z-14. It's fashionable for men to discuss Z as though it were some sort of masterpiece back in its day, but to be honest I feel it was a hot mess, one of those hybrid fougerientals that always smelled crass and badly-balanced. Recently it was reformulated into something that simply smells like cinnamon. Nothing more, nothing less. There are many tears about this. I dislike the smell of cinnamon, but I think Z smells better now than it used to, and that's not saying much. Just an example of how overblown it can all get.

      Montana is another example of a bad scent made worse. You'd think it was some sort of standard-bearer by what you read, but no loss with whatever they're tinkering with in its formula now. The issue with masculine fragrances is that there are fewer "masterpieces" out there, and so sometimes the reformulation issue has merit. But because there are fewer excellent ones, there's less to worry about, too.

      Hazelmae, don't let 'em get you down. Enjoy what you like. Trust your nose only.

  3. Someone on BN said he went out and bought several bottles of "vintage" Z14 that he found somewhere. Ridiculous.
    I want to know why people think a minor change in packaging automatically equals reformulation. "You have to find the Zino with Davidoff written in cursive!!"

    1. Unless he walks around with a hand-written copy of the ingredients list from the box of the original Z-14, there's no way he could discern one version from another - with possibly the exception of the latest version which does smell like they cheaped out entirely and just threw a few aromachemicals on top of cinnamyl alcohol. Pointless either way.

      My favorite in regards to Zino is how guys on BN propagate the lie that it's been discontinued. Not in the least. 4 ounce bottles of it can still be found on Amazon for under $40.

  4. I'm glad you wrote this post on reformulations. I agree with all of the comments above that the whole "you should have had a bottle back in the day!" that inevitably appears in any discussion or review is tiresome. The comment is often made on fragrances regardless of price. Old Spice is a good example. Yes, it smells different to me than it did in childhood, but so do a lot of things. I'm not going to scour the earth for a $10 vintage fragrance just like I'm not going to chase down a vintage bottle of jug wine. I can understand the concern if the fragrance is your "signature" or is dear to you (count me among the Kouros lovers), but in that case you should buy a couple of bottles. I'll run out of Kouros sometime soon and then I'll have to venture out and buy another bottle. As much as I don't like the idea of it being changed, I also need to accept that I may already have the new formulation and I've been happy with it the whole time!

    Excellent blog and thanks to you for writing it and turning me on to shamu1's blog where I've learned just how much I like old school powerhouse fragrances.

  5. It's funny you mention Old Spice - it's one of the few fragrances on this blog that I've actually done a formula comparison of! Up until very recently I owned a matching cologne/aftershave set from the Shulton days. They were very nice, but I was a little pressed for pocket change and sold them on ebay for $28. Last winter I grabbed a bottle of the P&G stuff. Its differences are typical of all reformulations - based on cost-cutting tactics, ironically in this case due to packaging costs. The fact that it's not in glass anymore made it necessary for its new purveyors to add a stronger anise note, to mask that off-smell of fragrance enclosed in plastic. I think the anise succeeds in masking the smell, but also changes the feel of Old Spice. Is it less of a scent now than it used to be? In my opinion, no. It still smells good.

    "Reformulation" is a fancy word for change. People instinctively dislike change. But as you aptly pointed out, this reaction is tiresome. It's something that is against the grain of everyday functioning. We can't get crazy over it, it's just not worth it.

    Thanks for reading, Chris! Glad you've been enjoying the blog.

  6. Eternity for men has been reformulated as well. Something I will never come to terms with...


  8. Hi thank you for your interesting blog. I was always a big fan of Kouros and have worn it for the past 14 years. I have noticed the scent is not nearly as strong as it was and I'm very disappointed. I still wear Kouros but quite frankly it the smell only lingers for about an hour or so before fading. Previously it would hang about for six to seven hours. Are other people as disappointed as me. Do you have any recommendations? Like if I am forced to replace King Kouros with something strong, long lasting and similar, what should I go for? I would appreciate any help.

    1. My main suggestion for you is a fragrance called Lapidus Pour Homme. It comes in a grey bottle with a black ribbed atomizer top. It's been around since 1987 and it's an explosion of animalic musk, honey, pineapple, rose, and woods. Even reformulations of this gem are potent, 10+ hours of longevity. Enjoy.


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